Interconnection as a starting point and the dissatisfaction of the pragmatic approach

The Wonders describe interconnection as a beginning that gives the mind a reality it can grasp - being connected to Rene, Maggie, and others - then ask how many more.

They cite Rene as being constantly aware of humanity as a whole rather than of individuals, though he can zero in on individuals who are more insistent about being acknowledged, and ask why he is there and Frederic is not.

Frederic says his desire to explore currently comes out as pushing against things.

The Wonders reply that he wants to explore, but pragmatically: can he sit on a bed of nails, climb an untied rope, push a pencil, dissipate clouds - all of which they say are possible but amount to sleight of hand and sleight of mind, with more beyond.

Frederic recognizes the feeling as dissatisfaction; they confirm it will never satisfy his mind, which is why he himself must come to the awareness.

After the session the facilitator describes seeing movement, light, energy and vibration all around Frederic while Frederic responded, 'this is all really good, but how can I use it?'